Most people are unaware of how their meat gets to them. People turn a blind eye to the industrialized process in which animals are slaughtered. For example, most people don’t know that pigs are often killed in very inhumane ways. In many cases, pigs are tied by their hind legs, left hanging from a hook, and then slowly lowered into a boiling container of water while they’re still alive. They suffered unimaginably painful deaths. And then they become the ham on your ham sandwich.
This is not the case for all animals; some are killed humanely. But unfortunately, the majority of animals in our society are treated like commodities — objects to be exploited for mass consumption. We no longer live in an age in which people can casually kill an animal here, an animal there — we live in an age in which there are so many people that it requires a gigantic, cruel system of slaughter. I believe that when people go to Applebee’s, there should be photos of animals being slaughtered on their menu; it would hurt their business, but at least it would be honest. By enabling people to buy hamburgers and hot dogs at such places, but acting as if the meat simply came out of thin air, they are being deceptive and encouraging the customer to turn a blind eye to the slaughter that occurs behind closed doors.
This is why people should stop eating meat. But many people say “I can’t stop eating meat because it tastes so good! I could never go without meat!” The solution to this problem is to eat products which taste just like meat, but aren’t. A good example of this are the frozen foods companies Boca Burgers and Morningstar Farms. Both of these companies offer foods that look and taste just like meat, but are made from non-meat sources. There are also a lot of ethnic cuisines (such as Indian) which do not have any meat in them. What a lot of people don’t realize is that one of the reasons their meat tastes good is because of things that were added to it (i.e. BBQ sauce, ketchup, seasonings, flavorings, etc.) — these “added” things can be added to non-meat products too. In other words, it’s not the meat itself which tastes good, its the things which are added into the mix. The only reason people think the meat itself tastes good is because people are brainwashed by the meat industry and by advertising to think of it that way.
Above: example of a Morningstar Farms product
If you go into a local Supermarket, look for Boca Burgers, Morningstar Farms products, and Amy’s products. Also look for foods such as tofu and products which say they’re veggie or vegan. There are now more choices than ever when it comes to food that looks and tastes like meat but isn’t. There are Morningstar “Chik’n” patties (which looks and tastes like Chicken but is made of soy), there are products such as vegetarian hot dogs which are also made from soy, and both Boca and Morningstar make burgers which taste like hamburgers but aren’t made of meat. And it turns out that not eating meat is actually healthier than eating meat; there is a lot of cholesterol in products such as beef.
The easiest way to stop eating meat is to slowly stop making it part of your diet (kind of like the way smokers use nicatine gum to slowly stop smoking). Eating products that look and taste like meat but aren’t (such as Boca and Morningstar products) will help you to “get off” eating meat. Eventually, you won’t be eating meat and you won’t even be aware of it.
If you had the opportunity to walk up to a cow or a pig on a farm and cuddle with it, you’d never eat meat again. This is why I’m a vegetarian — I have compassion for other animals.
I am still largely undecided about the issue of abortion, however that does not mean I haven’t drawn conclusions about it. The problem with abortion is that people don’t really know whether a fetus counts as an independent life-form. Those arguing in favor of abortion argue that until the baby is born, it is still technically (biologically) part of the mother’s body and hence the mother can decide what she wants to do with it (similar to how if a mother wanted to chop off her arm, she’d be allowed to do it). But those arguing against abortion argue that the moment of independent sentience occurs not when a baby is born, but the moment a sperm cell meets and egg cell. They argue that from that point onward, the fetus is a separate lifeform.
I’m not a fan of abortion, but nonetheless I do not think it should be prohibited. I think it should be allowed, but strongly discouraged (kind of like smoking tobacco). Ultimately, people should try to avoid getting themselves into a situation in which they have a baby growing inside of them but don’t want to give birth to it. When it comes down to it, abstinence and abortion are similar in the sense that both result in the termination of a life. Abstinence results in the sperm and egg never meeting in the first place, thus resulting in no offspring. The only difference between abstinence and abortion is that abortion terminates life a step closer to reality (i.e. after the sperm and egg have met).
I have a problem with abortion in this sense: the chances of a specific sperm cell uniting with a specific egg cell are extremely small. Between any two parents, there are about 10 trillion possible children which could be born from those two parents, with each of the 10 trillion potential children having its own unique personality and consciousness. Now imagine every possible combination of parents (person A with person B, person A with person C, person B with person C, etc.) and the number of possible children unimaginably huge — septillions upon septillions of possible children. Because of this, each of the 7 billion people alive today should say to themselves, “I’m pretty damn lucky to be here. If the timing of the sperm/egg that made me had been just slightly off, I would’ve ceased to exist”.
Referring to what I was saying earlier, I have a problem with abortion in the sense that when a sperm and and egg cell meet (regardless of how this occurs), a consciousness is “plucked” from the pool of gazillions of possible children; it’s kind of like having 500 columns on a slot machine, and in order for a consciousness to come into existence all 500 of those columns need to say the number “7″. Now, imagine that that consciousness has beaten all the odds of making it to the real world, only to be tragically thwarted by someone’s abortion. That being would’ve beaten all the odds, but failed to pass the last obstacle: being allowed to develop and be born, due to someone’s decision. But then again, when someone decides to abstain from sex, they are also preventing the lifeform from being born. What makes abortion more tragic is that the lifeform has already passed the obstacle of emerging into the real world at the time that its life is terminated. It’s like getting admitted to a prestigious school and then being told after you’ve been admitted that you cannot attend.
At the moment I am still undecided about abortion because both sides of the argument are rational to at least some degree. Because of this, I don’t have a problem with abortions occurring, but I strongly discourage them. The fact is that whether or not abortion is legal, people are still going to get abortions anyway. If abortion is made illegal, women who want to get an abortion are still going to do it anyway, but they’ll do it in unsanitary conditions behind closed doors. This is primarily why I think abortion should be legal, but (based on what I’ve already said) should be discouraged. After all, a fetus is a form of life.
It is very important to be one with animals. The following is a list of the 3 values which I consider to be “being one” with animals:
#1 – Do not eat meat; be a vegetarian and do not inflict pain and suffering on other animals #2 – Zoosexuality; having sex with non-human animals is OK so long as intentions are good and certain conditions are met #3 – Consumption burial; when a person dies, the best way to get rid of the person’s remains is to feed the body to one or more animals (i.e. sharks).
Together, these 3 core values reflect what I believe to be a kind of “animal trinity”; not in terms of religion, but in terms of ethics. I believe that eat meat (in most cases) is immoral, I believe that there is nothing wrong with humans having sex with non-human animals (assuming certain conditions are met), and I believe that allowing non-human animals to consume dead bodies is a far better choice than cremation or burial (for example, when a body is cremated the nutrients in the body are destroyed and become useless, but when a body is fed to an animal, the nutrients are simply transferred to
another animal and are not destroyed. In fact, allowing one’s body to be fed to an animal after death is considered good karma in some eastern religions, such as zoroastrianism.)
To every rule, there is an exception to that rule. Eating meat is only OK if the animal to be consumed has died of old age or natural causes, in which case there is nothing wrong with eating it. However, in our modernized society, chances are that that is not what happened to the meat on your plate. Chances are that the meat on your plate came from an animal that lived a miserable life in some over-crowded disease-ridden factory and had a short life because it was slaughtered early in its life. Because of this, buying meat at a local supermarket is incredibly unethical.
Exception to value #2: When humans have sex with non-human animals, it generally OK, but in some cases it is not. For example, if the person has the intent to deliberately inflict harm on the animal (i.e. by thrusting really fast and hard) then that is immoral. Also, if there is a large size difference (for example if the human is much bigger than the non-human animal) then that would also be immoral. Another case in which it would be immoral
is if the person forced the animal to have sex and the animal clearly didn’t want it and showed its dislike by biting, kicking, etc. But other then these few cases, there is nothing wrong with human-animal sexual interactions.
Because humans are animals, and because life itself seems to be so rare and unique in the universe, life is to be treasured like a rare gem. After all, on a cosmic scale the Earth is equivalent to a grain of sand on a beach — that’s how small it is. Us animals (humans and all other animal species) are on this planet together, and must co-exist. It is not “us” and “them”, it is “we”, as in “we animals of the planet Earth”. Thousands of years from now, when our society stops being ignorant and realizes that the differences between humans and other animals are pretty small, people will realize how intolerant and speciesist people were in the 2010s. Through secularism, pacifism, liberalism and a love of nature, people can reconnect with nature and become one with it. And that’s one of the reasons why having one’s body fed to an animal after one dies is so important — it is a complete return to nature. The word “return” is important because it reminds us that the human species is too a part of nature; admittedly, a very strange part of nature, but nonetheless part of it. A skyscraper is no more than a very sophisticated beaver dam — that is, a structure made by an animal species to benefit its creatures.
Ultimately, there is no such thing as “human exceptionalism”; the idea that humans are separate and “above” nature is a delusion made to satisfy the over-inflated egos of humans. In reality, such a separation does not exist; it is only an excuse made by humans which allows them to exploit other animals and use non-human animals to serve their purposes. The fact is that us animals are on this planet together, we all have DNA, we all have the same common ancestor and we are not separate from one another. The best way to think of it is the “merging” of humans with other animals — we are all part of the same thing; the humans, dogs, horses, dolphins, and countless other species that inhabit the Earth are all made from elements (like carbon) which were manufactured in some ancient generation of stars billions of years ago.
I was recently watching a true crime show on TV which contained language which exemplifies the arrogant, smug, anthropocentric beliefs of our society. For example, in the show they said “a person killed 7 animals and 1 human”. That right there is speciesist language. What the show should’ve said is “there were 8 animals killed, one of whom was a human”. The show should’ve said this because humans are animals. But of course, our society is so human-centric that humans are artificially separated from other species. In fact, it isn’t just this show: the English language itself has words that separate humans from other animals, even though humans are themselves animals. For example, when two humans engage in sexual intercourse, the humans are said to be “having sex”, but when two non-human animals engage in sexual intercourse, they are said to be “mating”. Similarly, if ones sees a sign in a park which says “no animals”, they assume that people will understand it to mean non-human animal. But of course, technically a sign that says “no animals allowed” means that humans are also not allowed, since humans are animals.
The problem is that people in our society don’t see it this way. They see humans as being superior to all other species, and according to our delusional society all other species are “below” humans. This is a fantasy created by humans to satisfy their own over-inflated egos. It also explains why our legal system is so anthropocentric and don’t give non-human animals as many rights as humans. Perhaps one of the reasons why sexual contact between humans and non-human animals is condemn so thoroughly by society is because people don’t know what to call it — is it “having sex”, or “mating”?
When I was watching that true crime show on TV, one of the things I noticed was that the bad guy killed 7 non-human animals first; and when this happened, the authorities looked into it, but didn’t make a big deal out of it. But as soon as humans began to be killed, the word “murder” comes into play and all of a sudden the authorities and the community began to panic. This is yet another example of how people place their own welfare above that of non-human animals — after all, people eat butchered animals all the time and don’t give it a second thought. What really bothers me is the word “murder” — it is a distinctly anthropocentric term. When a crazy person kills a non-human animal, the word “killed” is used, but when a human is killed, the word “murdered” is used; not only that, but the word “murder” never seems to be applied to non-human animals. Also, when non-human animals are killed, they are not called “homicides”. In this sense, the killing of humans gets special attention, whereas the killing of non-human animals don’t get any. In the eyes of the law, non-human animals are mainly objects and resources to be exploited, whereas humans are “special”, “privileged” beings with more rights.
Another thing I noticed while watching the true crime show was that one of the homicide detectives was himself a beef owner. Don’t you see the hypocrisy in that? This man, who was actively investing the killing of an innocent person, was simultaneously causing the deaths of innocent cows, for the purposes of slaughtering them and using them for meat. When the beef owner/homicide detective kills cows for profit, why aren’t the deaths of the cows called “homicides”? Clearly, there is an anthropocentric smugness and arrogance going on — even though both humans and cows are sentient beings, people seem to arrogantly think that a human life is more important and more valuable than the life of a cow (or a horse, or a dog, or any other non-human animal).
Here is another example: someone once told me the following scenario: “A man and a dog stand on the edge of a cliff; you must push one of them off. Which one do you choose?” This hypothetical scenario really annoys me because it forces one to say “human” — in that sense, it is a loaded question. A similar scenario is presented on p. 55 of the book “Some We Love, Some We Hate, Some We Eat”. In this part of the book, it gives the following scenarios:
“An out-of-control trolley is headed toward a group of the world’s last five remaining mountain gorillas. You can throw the switch and send it towards a 25-year-old man. Should you?
[Second scenario]: The trolley is speeding toward a man whom you do not know. But you can throw a switch and send it hurtling towards a pet dog? Should you?” — Hal Herzog, Some We Love, Some We Hate, Some We Eat
The author goes on to say the following:
“In both cases, Mary Jean said to save the person over the [non-human] animal, even if it would mean the death of Tsali, our late, great Labrador retriever. I made the same decision, and you probably did too. Petrinovich found that almost everyone chose to save people over animals in these situations. This is also true of people in other parts of the world. In fact, of all of the ethical principles he examined using many different types of trolley problems, Petrinovich found that the single most powerful moral rule was ‘Save people over animals’.
Marc Hauser, director of the Cognitive Evolution Laboratory at Harvard [added another trolley dilemma]:
Once again, you are walking over a footbridge and see the trolley speeding down the track. It is headed toward five chimpanzees. Next to you on the footbridge is a large chimpanzee. The only way for you to save the five chimps is to personally push the big chimpanzee in the path of the trolley. Should you do it?
In this case, most people say that you should sacrifice one chimp to save five chimps. But recall that [in a different trolley problem], most people say that it would be wrong to push a human into the tracks to save five people in exactly the same circumstances. Rationally, we should make the same decision in both cases. But we don’t. Our intuition is different when we think about moral situations involving animals.” — Hal Herzog, Some We Love, Some We Hate, Some We Eat, p. 55-56
The above trolley problems are good examples of how humans arrogantly believe that their lives are more important that those of non-human animals. When it comes down to it, I am not like most people. For example, if a trolley were speeding towards a person I did not know and I had the ability to save that person by sending it towards my pet dog and killing my pet dog, I would not do it. I would let the trolley continue its course towards the person I did not know. Also, if a trolley was headed towards 5 beings (of any kind — human, chimp, etc.) the fact that the beings were human would not change my decision — according to the above mentioned trolley examples, I would push the large being in the way to save the 5 beings. The fact that they are human does not matter to me. Unfortunately, I am in the minority, and most people are smug and would have their best interests placed in the human.
But when it comes down to it, the trolley dilemma is itself flawed, because it doesn’t give you a third option — diverting the trolley so that it doesn’t hit anybody. If that choice were an option, I would not allow the trolley to hit the person and I would not allow it to hit the dog — I would simply divert it so it didn’t hit anybody.
Everything discussed so far could also explain why people act so irrationally when a person is attacked and killed or eaten by a non-human animal, such as a bear or a shark. Most people think that humans are the best thing that has ever happened to the Earth, so when their arrogance is destroyed by an animal attack, they get freaked out; they are reminded that humans are not in control of the Earth. I am not like most people; I do not mind it when people are attacked by animals because it is part of nature (and I especially don’t mind it considering the fact that only a handful of people are attacked by animals each year, while billions of non-human animals are killed by humans each year). In fact, I consider being killed and eaten by an animal the best possible way to go — it is an environmentally friendly way to go and provides nutrients to a hungry animal. Unfortunately, most people don’t see this and rely on their primal instincts to retaliate against the animals.
The point of all this is that humans are awfully arrogant, and need to reform the legal system so that non-human animals have just as many rights as humans. The legal system also needs to be reformed so that human-animal sexual interactions are allowed. “Human exceptionalism” is what is behind all this — it is the delusional philosophy that humans are “beyond” nature. This is rubbish — humans are not beyond nature, they just think they are.
(For those who don’t know, “speciesism” is a bias in favor of one species, usually humans, over others; it is like the terms “racism” and “sexism”).
All across the planet Earth, there are currently thousands and thousands of people who are sexually attracted to animals. For most of those, people, their desire is kept secret, because those people know that if they revealed what they really think, they would be shunned by the people they know and persecuted by society. These people are in what I call the zoosexual closet.
The zoosexual closet is a term which originates from the term “closet”, a term used to describe homosexual and bisexual people who keep their sexual feelings secret. Thus, the term “closet” can be applied to zoosexuals as well.
It’s a shame that most people keep their feelings secret. Many people who are sexually attracted to animals live in regions where sex with animals is forbidden by law — these discriminatory laws unfairly prevent people from being true zoosexuals. These laws put pressure on zoosexuals to keep their desires secret, because they fear that if they reveal what they think, the law will persecute them. But it’s not just the law that keeps zoosexuals hiding — it’s also our culture. The most dominant religions such as Christianity generally condemn zoosexuality and call if “immoral”, even though people in these same religions commit a far more immoral act — eating slaughtered animals (i.e. in the form of hamburgers). These delusional religious teachings
have been embedded into our society to such a degree that even now in our mostly secularized society, people still cling to the irrational religious values which unfairly condemn zoosexuality.
As a result of this condemnation, a zoosexual person who is in the zoosexual closet is likely to face ridicule, scorn, or rejection if he/she reveals his/her zoosexual feelings to close family members, co-workers, or friends. In fact, a person who is in the zoosexual closet must be very careful who he/she reveals his/her zoosexual feelings to, because (as this post shows), chances are that the person he/she encounters will be full of anti-zoosexual bigotry and hatred. Even if that person (i.e. a family member or a friend) is a good person and not a bigot, that person might still be ignorant of zoosexuality, and treat it with disgust.
The critical thing to realize when revealing your zoosexuality to someone is to determine if the person you’re revealing it to (family member, friend, etc.) is open-minded and is capable of tolerating views other than his/her own. If the person has a history of intolerance (i.e. against blacks, homosexuals, etc.) then you should probably not reveal your zoosexuality to that person, because that person will probably reject you. There really are three general kinds of people — 1) those who are extremely rigid and can’t be convinced that zoosexuality is OK, 2) those who are don’t know or understand zoosexuality (but might come to accept it if he/she were talked to about it), and 3) those who accept zoosexuality. Unfortunately, those in category #3 are quite rare, because anti-zoosexual discrimination is so prolific in our society. If you are a zoosexual and you are thinking of coming out of the closet, it is really important to determine what category the person you are dealing with is in.
Should people who are sexually attracted to animals (zoosexuals) come out of the closet? Absolutely. The problem is, the majority of people in our society are ignorant when it comes to zoosexuality because they haven’t been taught about it in school and the only things they learn about it are on Comedy Shows like Jon Stewart, in which the subject is ridiculed. The general lack of exposure to zoosexuality and lack of understanding about it means that most people are going to be hostile to it. But that doesn’t make zoosexuality wrong. Zoosexuality is a sexual orientation
just like homosexuality and bisexuality, and it is your right to be a zoosexual, just as it is a right for a homosexual to be gay.
If you are a zoosexual and are thinking of coming out of the closet, know this: You are not alone. There are many people who are zoosexual, so by coming out of the closet it simply means you have a stronger spirit than most people when it comes to zoosexuality. Although society would like you to believe that zoosexuality doesn’t exist, it does, and there is nothing wrong with being a zoosexual. It is really important to remember this: the last thing you want to do is keep your feelings bottled up inside of you. This is what often leads to suicides. Keeping your zoosexual feelings inside of you will only make yourself worse. However, revealing your zoosexuality to people might result in you being shunned and reviled. This dilemma is what has lead to online communities of zoosexuals (such as beastforum.com), because the only way for them to express themselves is through websites.
But when will the day come when zoosexuality goes off-line? When will zoosexuality make its way into mainstream society, and become taught in schools as a legitimate sexual orientation, and be part of real, non-Internet support groups?
“But how [does one reveal his/her zoosexuality]? What on earth could be a good ice breaker to introduce someone into the world of zoosexuality? As we have seen many times before there are very few, if any, people that we can outright trust. Families have turned their very own children over to police or self righteous psychologists. It’s very hard to find a friend who will keep such a secret safe.
And unless you met your significant other through a zoo friendly environment chances are they will take to the idea as well as getting a third wheel for the weekend.
What is one to do? The first thing you MUST do is be careful! With so many people out there wanting to show their moral superiority by literally enslaving us to their beliefs, you can’t be too cautious. But what exactly is going on in someone’s head when you break the news to them? We all know the unfortunate thought process of close minded people.[...]There are seven levels of competencies, in order from the first level to the final one: ignorance, awareness, understanding, appreciation, acceptance, internalization and adaptation. These different levels perfectly demonstrate what someone will go through when exposed to a lifestyle different than their own.[...]Believe it or not, most people are truly ignorant to the existence of a zoosexual orientation let alone the fact that people actually participate in it.[...]There are several [Internet sites] dedicated to providing equal rights to zoosexuals. Sadly most rescue and abuse societies are against zoosexuality citing many myths and incorrect information.[...] The truth is there is no cookie cutter way to introduce someone to a new culture or act. It takes a special person to internalize something that they themselves may never participate in. There are a few things that you can do to portray a positive zoosexual image. Be clean, honest, approachable, respectful, and smart. It’s key to be someone that is hard to hate.
If you are an all around good person who is appealing and respectful of others feelings and beliefs they will have little recourse but to say ‘your alright, not my bag but alright’. And be smart. Understand both sides of the debate and know the opposing view just as well as your own. Be able to dispel myths using creditable non zoo related sources.
If all works out well you will still have your friend and best of all someone who understands you and accepts you as you. It’s not something to rush into, but to take your time in considering and delivering.[...]Take your time, consider your options, and be very picky when you decide who you are going to tell that you are a zoosexual. There is a lot of support available, but there isn’t a lot that can be done when the wrong person finds out and comes after you and your lover.” — Dogbert’s Zoo, http://dogbertzoo.blogspot.com/?zx=30ba2612e0ad88ad
There are very few websites which specifically deal with the zoosexual closet, and the quote above comes from one of those few websites. Below is another quote about the zoosexual closet:
“Realize that there’s nothing wrong with being a zoophile. Zoophilia is a sexual orientation just like heterosexuality or homosexuality. Zoophiles (like me) love the animal they choose to be their partner and would do anything to keep them from coming to harm. They treat them as you would a human spouse, i.e., take care of them, spend time with them, make sure they’re happy, etc. A lot of people seem to think that just because someone is attracted to animals, that they go around raping every animal they see. However, that’s not true; while some may do that, most don’t. And yes, animals can consent to sex with humans, though it’s not through words like humans do. For example, if a female dog wants to have sex with you, she’ll do things like turning her butt towards you and moving her tail to the side, rubbing herself against your crotch, etc. If you respond to her advances and have sex with her, how is that not consensual? Besides, if an animal doesn’t want to have sex, it can say no with its claws, teeth, hooves, horns, etc. Also, most zoophiles love their partner, regardless of the sex, and even if he/she didn’t show an interest in it, they would love him/her just the same. Anyone who rapes animals or uses them as sex toys is perverted and should be grouped with rapists and pedophiles. But that’s getting off the subject. So, I think you should take some time and think before you come to any decisions. Try getting used to the idea that you may be attracted to [animals].” — Teinaava, —
“While there are zoos [zoosexuals] who do seek social acceptance, in my experience, they are the vast minority. And yes, their quest may well speak of an isolation they may feel. Most zoos however, would instead seek to be left alone in their pursuit of happiness, without the fear of religiously motivated laws killing their loves and ruining their lives.” — Commenter, http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/juice/2009/08/zoophilia_reader_reaction_new_times.php
The above quote represents an unfortunate truth about our society — zoosexuality is so reviled by our society that the only way zoosexuals can deal with the persecution is to hide in their little worlds (instead of using the term “little worlds”, the quote above uses the term “pursuit of happiness”.) But really, that “pursuit of happiness” is just a euphemism for “staying in the closet”. What the above quote is saying is that basically most zoosexuals have been “defeated” in terms of fighting against society’s irrationality, and have somehow managed to live happy lives in their secret little worlds. The reason they stay in their secret little worlds (closets) is because revealing what they think might lead to their pets being killed by religiously motivated (and discriminatory) laws.
People in the zoosexual closet often feel guilty about their feelings. For example, read this quote:
“Writing this is very difficult. I’m an 18-year-old young lady in college and am interested in bestiality, only involving dogs. I am very confused with these interests, and have weighed them in my strong (secular) ethical codes, which I pride myself deeply upon and are my absolute being. I’ve never spoken to anyone about this, or even written it down. I’ve concluded that my interests (obviously involving consensual activities) don’t go against my ethics because they are not harmful in any way, but bestiality is so severely taboo that I’m ashamed of having this interest.
If anyone in my present life were to learn this about me, I know I would be irreversibly shunned and judged. I’m more turned on by this and experience more sexual satisfaction watching videos [of humans having sex with animals] than I do in intimacy with my boyfriend, who I love unconditionally. He and I have a relationship that is substantial in every way, but if I ever even hinted to him about this, I’m not sure if he would be able to respect me at all. We share a genuine love for animals that defines our ethics and lifestyle, as we’re vegetarians, and I feel that he would consider what I’m interested in as animal abuse among other immoral things. Also, it would be so out of character for who I am, he would probably reject me because he wouldn’t think I was the person that I am.
I just…don’t know how to deal with this. If I was given the choice, I would just erase this interest altogether from my mind, but I know that I can’t and have to keep it a secret. I try to look at other erotic materials for satisfaction but nothing even comes close to how much this turns me on. How have you dealt with these feelings, if you’ve had them? And if you haven’t had them, why not?” — Leeit, http://www.beastforum.com/showtopic-165361.html
As I said in a previous post, in the above quote Leeit is denying who she is. When she says she looks at non-zoosexual material to get satisfaction, that is similar to an insecure gay person who looks at heterosexual material to try to “make” themselves straight. In response to Leeit, “Jeepdog89″ said the following:
“For me, it took 2 years of exactly what you have described to come to terms with myself[...] One could say I am similar to you in that I follow similar strong ethical codes and have concluded the no harm / no foul rule to apply. The fact remains that bestiality is risky business even in the most liberal crowd. Much more than the general majority are prepared to handle thinking about.
The way I dealt with my early feelings of shame and overall disgust was time. Unfortunately it’s the hard route, but it seems to have worked well for me. Like I said, I was battling myself for two years trying to make it go away. Of course I wanted nothing to do with anything even close to bestiality. Eventually I realized that the feeling was not going to go away and I explored it a little bit more. By ‘explored’ I mean I educated myself. I have not had any sort of experience to date. What I did was simply and plainly learn as much as I could and when I realized once and for all that cross-species intercourse is harmless and that I wasn’t alone in the world, I was able to feel better about myself.” — http://www.beastforum.com/showtopic-165361.html
It’s amazing that after years of searching for information specifically relating to the zoosexual closet, the above quotes are the only quotes I’ve found. But keep this in mind: If you type in the term “Coming to terms with being zoosexual” on Google, you probably won’t find anything. But if you type in “Coming to terms with being gay”, then you’ll find a load of stuff. I have learned that zoosexuals often read “homosexual closet”
information, even though it has nothing to do with their orientation. The reason the zoosexuals read the “homosexual closet” information is because the fight for homosexual acceptance has been going on for decades in mainstream society, and as a result their movement has accumulated lots of information about “being in the closet” which is very helpful to zoosexuals, even though it is about homosexuality and not zoosexuality. For example, read this quote:
“It’s understandable that you’re nervous. Coming to grips with your sexuality is a big step and I’m sure you have a million questions about coming out [of the closet][...] Free yourself to continue the process of coming out. It’s tempting to want to jump ahead and label your sexuality and immediately entertain thoughts about work, family and love. This is perfectly normal, but slow down a bit and free yourself
up to experience what you are feeling right now. This process is about discovering yourself. That should be your primary focus, not what your future holds or what others may think. Now, just because this is about you doesn’t mean you have to do it alone. What you’ll find is that now that you are accepting yourself, the urge to share your sexuality will get stronger. Keep in mind that just because [you are different] doesn’t
mean you are obligated to announce it to the world. But, if you feel the urge, do so and follow these coming out steps.
Feel free to vent as well. The last thing you want to do is hold your feelings inside. Keep a journal or join a safe group [like a forum] to talk through your joys or frustrations. Last, take small steps. Coming out sounds finite, but it’s a continual process. You’ll come out your entire life, to new people you meet and those you already know. The great thing is, the more comfortable you are with yourself, the easier it will get.
Although the above quote came from a website about homosexuality, many of the things said in the above quote also apply to zoosexuals. For example, when the author of the above quote says to join a safe group, that’s what a lot of zoosexuals do (for example, they join websites such as beastforum.com).
Unfortunately, because there are no non-Internet safe groups, many people who don’t know about the zoosexual community are brought up to believe society’s ill-conceived “morality” about sex with animals being “bad”; if these people end up believing the delusional anti-zoo rhetoric of the masses, they may become suicidal. For example, a parent asked on Yahoo Answers how he should deal with his son’s interest in zoosexuality; in response, the following was said:
“I wouldn’t freak out too much[...] [If you were] gay or bi, imagine how [you'd feel] when you first discovered you had feelings for the same sex — you’d probably [be] scared out of your mind, [thinking] you were weird and that people would hate you. Well that’s probably what he thinks. I know this may come as a disappointment to you, but if he is zoosexual, there is no ‘getting rid of it’, or curbing it, it’s a valid orientation just like any other. I’ve seen many other zoosexuals commit suicide over the years because they felt like they were alone, unaccepted and hated as well as other reasons. Don’t [reject] your son if he turns out [to be zoosexual], because society will (if he has the courage to come out later in life about it).” — Sydney, http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AmW_0ijPgSS33cYVHi_JLhwjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20110109070135AAT6Zup
If a person is zoosexual, that person should realize that they were born zoosexual, there is nothing they can do about it, and they should be proud of it. They must ignore the irrational social norms which have been imposed on them. As more and more zoosexuals realize that there is nothing wrong with who they are, the number of tragic suicides should decrease.
Notice that the above quote does not mentioned seeing a psychologist anywhere, in terms of coming out of the closet. That’s because homosexuality is no longer considered to be a mental disorder (although it did use to be considered one, until the 1970s). Unfortunately, zoosexuality is still considered to be a mental disorder by the majority (even though it isn’t), and that’s why so many people claim that zoosexuals are “sick in the head” or “psychos”. The truth is, zoosexuals are not mentally ill. That are just as sane as homosexuals and bisexuals. It is our discriminatory society that has unfairly labeled zoosexuality as a paraphilia and not a sexual orientation.
If you are a zoosexual and want to come out of the closet, you don’t need to see a psychologist. Do what the above quote says, and combine it with what all of the other quotes above say (in order to make it zoo-centric). That will be the best way to come out of the closet. It’s sad that there are so many people out there who are forced to stay in their zoosexual closet because they fear that the law will persecute them or that their family and friends will reject them.
In contrast to the advice from the quote above, the following quotes show that people tend to keep themselves locked up in their zoosexual closet, even if they accept themselves for who they are:
“It wasn’t too hard for me at first. I always kind of knew [I was zoosexual], when [I discovered the word 'zoosexual'] it only took me about a month to come to grips with the fact that I WAS that word too. It got hard when I started talking to my then boyfriend about it. When he did finally figure that out, he was very upset. Kind of flipped out. I didn’t want to be zoo after that. Once we split, it was easy to go back, but for about a year there I felt uncomfortable in my own skin. Now, I am perfectly comfortable.” — cheesyness
“I tried to ignore my [zoosexual] feelings and distract myself living a ‘normal’ life, but I always came back around to the same old thing — that I am a zoo and nothing that I do can ever change that, no matter how I try to pretend I am someone else, and ever since taking it into my hands to actually live a zoo lifestyle, I am so much happier and more fulfilled than I ever imagined I could be, and I wouldn’t change it for the world.” — lexxistray
“I never went through the denial phase per se… There was just a point where I knew about zoosexuality to some extent but wasn’t sure if it’s what applied to me. Future digging around proved it was the definition of who I was in that regard entirely – it explained a lot about what I did and how I felt, and it was more of a relief to know there was a term for it. A real ‘light bulb-switched-on’ moment for me. Knowing there was a huge group of people who felt the same way as me also provided a snuggly-soft layer of comfort.” — secret admirer
“I worry about going through life dragging this huge, toxic secret with me everywhere I go — the kind of secret that, if it ever got out, would get me fired, shunned by my family and friends, and even legally prosecuted. My libido (a skilled self-rationalizer) is quick to assure me that it’s no big deal, because nobody would ever have to know, but the higher bits of my consciousness aren’t so sure; even if the risk of exposure is relatively low, the potential consequences are still severe enough to give me pause. And even if I did succeed in keeping my secret, I think the effort of keeping it would take a toll on my overall sense of well-being. I would have to maintain a distance between myself and rest of the world big enough to bury my secret in — and having sex with dogs is a pretty big secret. I envy people who have moved past the guilt and fear; that must be extremely liberating.” — on all fours
“Took me a couple weeks, maybe a month or two tops of being drawn to nothing but animal porn before I finally said ‘F*ck it, I’m into bestiality and I love animals. I’m gonna be a zoophile.’” — Ravana
“Being a sexual lover of animals never struck me as being odd[...] I realized that my copulation inside animals classed me as a member of the bestiality fraternity but it was not a lightning bolt from the Blue, just a couple of weeks convinced me that it was as normal as eating. It was then even easier to transfer my affections to dogs and include them in my life as intimate partners for over 40 years. — Pokerman
“I never really had a problem with myself, I kind of just saw [my zoosexuality] as another aspect of who I was, and not something wrong or dirty. However there have been a lot of times when I have second guessed myself but I suppose that’s bound to happen when you live in a society like ours.” — wolfdog098
“I have shared [my zoosexuality] to my [human] lover as well, she is pretty supportive and we are on both awesome terms. Also we are still together. Sharing with a lover about being a zoo is a very hard thing to do but it can be also very rewarding as well.” — domon kashu06
“It has taken 30 years to become comfortable with [being zoosexual], but to talk to my wife about [sex with animals] is not an option, and unfortunately I worry about what other people think, so secrecy is still of the utmost importance.” — Mikemare
“I must say that I wish I could have a [human] partner that shared my [zoosexual] passion with me, but that’s just a dream.” — taknoverme
“For the most part, I never had any trouble accepting who I was, I think a lot of that came with the support of friends and family who were somewhat accepting of my sexuality. I was with my ex-boyfriend for almost 9 years who, while not sharing the interest, was okay with me being a zoophile. I thought I could love him enough, however my sexual attraction got in the way of our relationship and in the end, we broke up and became just friends.” — bi k9guy
“I’ve always known I like animals, accepting and embracing my sexuality was fairly quick and easy, I’m proud of myself for who and what I am, however keeping my sexuality undercover is an ongoing headache… I hate having to hide such a large side of myself from almost everyone… nothing I can’t handle though, just frustrating at times” — conbear303
“Didn’t take me too terribly long to accept [my zoosexuality]. The way I look at it, if anyone were to find out, and not accept me for who I am, they can kiss my ass.” — camocowboy85
“I’ve been with the love of my life [a human] for over 30 years, he isn’t zoo but knows all about my interests and it doesn’t bother him at all. Don’t have to hide anything from him.[...] [My parents] still don’t know about my [zoosexuality], and I intend to keep it that way. “ — MaleTom
“People should be able to be whoever they are, and not being judged on it. If I only had the courage [to reveal my zoosexuality].” — Ponylove3
“I now share my life with a dog who I love like a wife and we do have an active [sex] life, but I do not dare tell anybody I currently know” — udpets
“For myself, I can say that [sex with animals] becomes a part of your life, natural and you can’t live without it. What I am trying to say is live your life and don’t care what other people think” — nedved
“It took a little while, but the guilt passed and I enjoyed it even more. However I am also [bisexual] and guard that little part of me for the most part as well. I know some of my family and friends would be upset about the bi part, and I would probably be hung from the nearest tree if they ever found out about [my zoosexuality]. I will also admit it sucks only being able to talk with people over the Internet about [zoosexuality]. Once and a while it would be nice to be able to talk to someone who is in the same room as me. I have [only] one friend I can talk to about it almost any time[...] I know family does not always understand, but sometimes they do not even have to know. Secrets like this are a hard burden to carry by one’s self, but [on the Internet there are] people who know and understand what [zoosexuals] are going through more than you might think.”
“I accepted myself as a zoo years ago and never looked back. There was a time when I had guilt and doubts, but that was before I realized how completely dysfunctional the people around me and society are.” — Old zoo
“Why would you even consider openly admitting something like your (largely illegal) sexual orientation [zoosexuality] on [Facebook]? It’s fine to accept yourself [as a zoosexual] and be proud of who you are. But broadcasting it? Uh uh. [zipped mouth emoticon]“ — Skyrune, http://www.beastforum.com/index.php?showtopic=168285&st=15&#entry6501969
“Adding Facebook friends [who are zoosexual]: probably safe. Outing yourself publicly to a society that doesn’t understand [zoosexuality]: BAD IDEA!!” — tundra98, http://www.beastforum.com/showtopic-168285-45.html
“I still live with my family so I hide [my zoosexuality]. But a couple of my friends know I’m into it. I’m pretty open about it with the ones I know, but cautious on who I tell.” — squad917
“I certainly don’t have to hide [my zoosexuality] from my girlfriend. I’m actually encouraged. But there are many I would like to tell, but must hide it from them.” — KitsArriet
“Someday I’ll tell my family and my closest friends [about my zoosexuality]. Rather that than have them find out on their own. But when I do I hope they understand. I’ve been this way for as long as they’ve known me – does it really change who I am?” — Ravana
“It’s too dangerous to let anyone know [about one's zoosexuality] outside of [zoosexuals themselves]. There is just so much that can go wrong. — Itzwolf
“As a general rule, I hide my [zoosexual] lifestyle, I would be foolish not to, seeing the non-tolerance of so-called ‘Normal’ people[...] I ensure that I am alone behind a locked door [when looking at zoosexual-related material on the Internet], then I need not worry about anyone catching me out and exposing my ‘Abnormalities’! All my life I have hidden my [zoosexuality] from my brothers, parents and other relatives, it has not been easy and at times downright dangerous!” — pokerman
“Yes, I hide [my zoosexuality] from my friends and family, but would not hide it from anyone that I was in a relationship with. If you are truly serious about a relationship with your [girlfriend] then shouldn’t you be honest and show her who you really are? If she can’t accept that then you probably shouldn’t be together. It’s your life; you shouldn’t have to hide your lifestyle from somebody who loves you.” — Akaraicloud
“Some may know of what I like, but I try to hide what I like doing.” — St. Benard
“I hide my lifestyle from most people. There is no point for me to be open with it, as the risks definitely outweigh the advantages.” — Prank122000
“I find its easier to hide [my zoosexuality] then suffer any asshole’s narrow-minded attempts to ‘save me’ from myself or force me to be a clone like them[...] What I do is my own business, not anyone else’s. “ — Hairbear58
“I’ve been pretty deep in hiding myself, fortunately I don’t live with my parents anymore so I don’t have to worry about them finding out, they’d most likely be very disapproving [of my zoosexuality].” — kitsunekun
“I don’t have to hide the fact that I am [zoosexual]… my family knows and they are quite alright with it and all the friends that I have and hang out with are all [zoosexuals] themselves … the only time I have to hide who I am (which is not very often) is when I am around non zoos.” — Playhorse
“I have to hide [my zoosexuality] because I know how the world works, and its just best for me to hide it. But on [the Internet], I can be who I am freely.” — Damo
“I have to hide my [zoosexuality] and I have to in fact be very discreet about [talking on a zoosexual Internet forum]. It is only the friends I have made on [the forum] that know. I am glad for those friends[...] I am very happy and joyful that this [forum] was how [a zoosexual friend and I] came to know each other.” — sweetgent55
“I have to hide [my zoosexuality], there is just to much of a risk. It’s kinda scary knowing what could happen or [what] people would think of you.” — ricochet02
“[Zoosexuals] are in a similar situation as [gay people] were a few decades ago[...] Being gay was unthinkable in 80s, just like the way we can’t really let others know [about our zoosexuality]. I believe though that eventually we will come out of the closet and we will be accepted by the public.” — humann
“I’m hiding [my zoosexuality] because I’m afraid of what other people would think about me and I think my parents would never accept it. So only my best friend knows about it and he ‘likes’ animals too.” — Werwolf
“Of course I hide [my zoosexuality], especially in my line of work. I don’t need my life or my family’s life ruined because some close-minded idiot takes exception to my sexuality.” — energydog
“Far too much of a risk to take to talk about it openly. Besides it doesn’t hurt anyone else in my life so why open myself up to criticism unnecessarily? It’s my business[...] I could just picture the outraged ‘moral’ majority.” — curiousonelooking
“As for [the general public], [I've] recently started to be a little more open about it and have actually found out that some of our friends and acquaintances are [zoosexual] as well. So don’t assume you’re the only one! Who knows…your neighbor or best friend may be posting in the [zoosexual thread] right above you.” — Solipsist
“If [my zoosexuality] got out I’d find myself unemployed, possibly disowned, probably in a psych ward or jail. It’s not tolerated very well around here needless to say. Posting [zoosexual information on the Internet] even makes me nervous[...] people are too quick to judge. I wish people would use common sense, [zoosexuals aren't] hurting anyone or anything.” — cowlover3167
“I really wish I didn’t have to hide the fact that [I'm zoosexual] but if I did I think I would loose all my friends and family. So right now I have to keep it under wraps which really sucks.” — countryboy68
“As I am a senior in high school I think its best that I hide [my zoosexuality]. I would like not to get the sh*t beat out of me.” — 789987
“I could never imagine a time where it wouldn’t be awkward beyond all belief to [reveal one's zoosexuality to someone] who wasn’t also [zoosexual].” — fuzzmart
“I hide [my zoosexuality] from the people which I don’t trust. But my nearest friends know of it. [However,] my family [doesn't] know about it.” — Swedishboy7
“I [revealed my zoosexuality to] my closest friends, who I hide nothing from. Although they were a little confused, they have grown to accept me[...] I’m glad I have [my friends] but, I would love to be able to tell my family [about my zoosexuality]. Although if I did, I think they wouldn’t talk to me again.” — Elvime
“I [revealed my zoosexuality to my girlfriend] and to my amazement she reacted by saying: ‘That’s it, you find that attractive? You should have told me, I thought I was weird because when I was younger I would read books about dogs and often had fantasies.’ Unknown to the both of us, [each of us] was a closet zoo. This became the biggest relief in my life. From that point on there was nothing left to tell her, she new my darkest secret and she accepted it and we actually found a way to bond with it.” — Getofffaster
“It’s so sad that many people don’t accept [zoosexuals]. We all have to hide from someone. We can only imagine the day when we don’t have to keep secrets because of fear of being arrested or disowned by family or friends or human lovers.” — Missywolf
“People often live in ignorance; they simply don’t see what’s going on around them. And zoophilia is far enough outside the norm of society that most people will never think to wonder about it. So all I have to do is keep quiet about the details of my feelings for my dog, and no one is the wiser.[...] And I like [humans] too, so it’s not like I have no interest in humans. I suppose that if [I get into a human] relationship, I’ll [reveal my zoosexuality]“ — Darkshadowsearcher
“I try to hide [my zoosexuality] as little as possible. And next long term human partner I have, I want her to know as early as possible to avoid issues later on.” — dirtbiker2000
“[I'm in the zoosexual closet] because I don’t want to offend people who find it repulsive, and I hide [my zoosexuality] because people don’t understand[...] The world would be a better place if everyone understood our lifestyle. Unfortunately there are only a few.” — debbienmax
“I don’t hide [my zoosexuality] at all.” — needmaster
“My wife knows all about me being [zoosexual]. I don’t need to hide it at home, which is the most important part to me anyway.” — guthwulf
“I keep [my zoosexuality] secret. I told my wife, because she might need to know, but she wasn’t happy about it. I told my old boyfriend, who was fine about it.” — grumpygoat
“I [wish people knew my zoosexuality], maybe one day we’ll be accepted but I can’t see it myself, such a shame. I want to tell at least my close family just so they know instead of guessing my own preferences, but the problems that would cause, I’d be safer living on Mars. Plus it’s as per usual illegal, even if you could convince a court of the difference between [bestialists] and [zoosexuals], the press would have a field day and my name would be mud, so I stay out of sight; only [people on the Internet know about my zoosexuality], such a shame.” — durkha247
“I most certainly hide [my zoosexuality]. In fact, [people I meet on the Internet are], so far, the only people in my life who know [about my zoosexuality].I think most people (unfortunately) have very negative knee-jerk reactions to zoophilia and assume it’s a form of animal abuse. It’s not like it’s anyone’s business anyway, but it would be nice if it was at least accepted enough that I could tell friends without being scared of their reactions. Oh well, I have accepted myself for who I am. Maybe someday I will have someone I am really close with who shares my feelings.” — torakuen
“[I've been hiding my zoosexuality] from everybody since 1994.” — hcore400
“I basically have to hide my [zoosexual] lifestyle from everyone I know, and it’s killing me!” — 6pitbull9
“I have to hide [my zoosexuality] too. I wish people were more accepting of this.” — sophie82
“Been hiding [in the zoosexual closet] for years and plan to do so the rest of my life.” — mare lover 1975
“We belong to a primitive, ignorant species. Only a few of our numbers are intelligent and reasonable… don’t expect fair treatment.” — Old Zoo
“My fiance and I are into it, I’d always had it hidden from everybody and we were talking one evening and he was hesitant to tell me [about his secret zoosexuality], thinking I would never speak to him again. What a surprise he got when I told him I’ve always secretly been [zoosexual]. We keep it hidden from everyone else.” — Moonface
“It would be stupid of me to yell in a restaurant that I have sex with my horse. However my, friends and family know about my love for my horse and think nothing of it. They love me for who I am and understand it is consensual. We don’t talk much about it but they certainly know about it and treat me as anyone else. If people cannot love you for who you are, well they simply don’t love you and [they] are ignorant. Why hang around crappy people that can’t understand [you] when their are plenty of people who do understand.” — utopias
“Wow, almost 90% of us hide our zoophile sexual choices from others[...] As zoos, we don’t seem to be like many homosexuals I know. Many [homosexuals] want the world to know about their sexuality. But to me sex is such a personal thing. Why does the world have to know? Yet if I am homosexual, it seems like a requirement to tell everyone in my life. Further, being gay is accepted and almost celebrated [but being zoo isn't].” — Dognpny
“My brother knows, but as we grew up together on a farm, he was in the loop from very early on and I didn’t have to tell him much. He knows I was married to my mare[...] I would like to meet more zoos, but carefully.” — stall8
“I have to hide [my zoosexuality] from the world. Unfortunately, the world has different and enforced opinions. I wish they would try to understand the fact that love, mutual sexual gratification, and companionship have no bounds.” — Sephon7
“I couldn’t imagine keeping it [my zoosexuality] in the dark for the rest of my life, and I feel bad for those that have to.” — EvaAdore
“I want to tell people [about my zoosexuality] so damn bad [that] it eats me up inside to the point that I sometimes think that anything can be better than [hiding in the closet]. I worry [about suicide] because I got a couple guns in my room, but the thought is always there but if I die then what will happen when I’m gone? I fear when I die my family will grieve, and hate me for my death. Suicide is a one way ticket and I know this, but my heart and love can’t take that much more hiding, I want to tell people [that I am zoosexual], but if I do I don’t know what will happen, I fear the consequences.
Even my best friend doesn’t know because I once brought up the subject of animal loving and he shot the subject down by telling me that any one who thinks and does that is an enemy to him. I cant even tell the one person I tell everything too!!!!! But since I found [beastforum.com], I can express my love without any fear of people making me an outcast; this forum saves lives… mine is probably one of them, but who knows what will happen tomorrow.” — 33k121, http://www.beastforum.com/showtopic-130422-105.html
The above quotes show that people generally become internally comfortable with their zoosexuality, but are very reluctant to reveal it to other people in real life (i.e. not on the Internet). The reason for this is because society has conditioned people to believe that sex with animals is wrong and this creates ill feelings such as guilt. People need to realize that there is nothing wrong with being sexually attracted to animals, and once they know this then those irrational feelings of guilt should begin to disappear. People shouldn’t care about what others think of them.
Also, people are afraid that if they reveal their zoosexuality, then they will be socially rejected, which is understandable — but the fact is, if zoosexuality is ever going to become accepted by mainstream society, zoosexuals are going to have to reveal their zoosexuality, even if it involves social rejection. Eventually, if enough zoosexuals stop being cowards and get out of the zoosexual closet, society may begin to accept it.
Zoosexual discrimination needs to end. As more and more people come out of their zoosexual closet and reveal their zoosexuality to the world, the more Zoosexual awareness will spread — this will then cause the zoosexual rights movement to become stronger. But it all starts with acceptance, and one of the main ways for people to accept zoosexuality is if people come out of their closets and explain to the world that zoosexuality
is a sexual orientation just like any other one.
In 2009, a boy named Cody Beck became one of the few people to come out of the zoosexual closet and reveal his zoosexuality to the world. He and Malcolm Brenner are among the few people who have done this. Have these two people been arrested? No. Have these two people been accepted? Yes. This proves that there is nothing wrong with coming out of the zoosexual closet. In 2009, an article was published which described Cody Beck’s experience coming out of the zoosexual closet:
“During his sophomore year in high school, Cody Beck finally got fed up with hearing homophobic cracks. If his classmates thought being gay was weird (Beck was openly bisexual), he had a confession that would blow their minds. He told them he is sexually attracted to dogs and horses. ‘I just
couldn’t keep it in anymore,’ Beck says. ‘Just for the hell of it, I thought I’d throw it out there and have them make fun of me more.’ Which they did. An 18-year old from Arizona who graduated last year, Beck says classmates taunted him by calling him ‘Bestiality Dude’.
Being a ‘zoophile’ in modern times, Beck says, is ‘like being gay in the 1950s. You feel like you have to hide, that if you say it out loud, people will look at you like a freak.’ Now Beck believes that he and other members of this minority sexual orientation, who often call themselves ‘zoos’, can follow the same path as the gay rights movement. Most researchers believe that 2 to 8 percent of the population harbors forbidden desires towards animals, and Beck hopes this minority group can begin appealing to the open-minded for acceptance [...] Before zoophiles can gain momentum, however, they’ll need to close ranks among their own kind. Ron, for instance, says zoos will never gain social acceptance. By asking for it, they’re tempting an even more powerful backlash. James isn’t quite that pessimistic, but resents young zoos who clamor for rights. They lack the patience and temperment, he says, to effect social progress.
Beck believes that these are expressions of fear which come that are natural in the early moments of a revolution. ‘That’s the story throughout history’, he says. ‘People don’t want to stand up for anything, because they don’t want to get hurt.’ He gains some of his own strength from the recent movie Milk, in which Sean Penn plays the nation’s first openly gay elected official, San Francisco City Supervisor Harvey Milk. ‘If we all stand up at once, we’ll share the load. What’s the point of living if we have to hide who we are?’
Beck will start college in the fall and hopes to become a history teacher. I asked him whether he was sure he was comfortable with my using his real name in this article. ‘I have the privilege of being one of the only persons to stand up,’ he says. ‘That gives me pride.’” — Thomas Francis,
As Cody Beck’s case demonstrates, there is nothing wrong with coming out of the zoosexual closet. And, as the above quote from gaylife.com states, a person who wants to come out of the closet should not be focusing on what others think of them. Just remember that coming out of the closet as a zoosexual is trickier than coming out of the closet as a homosexual, because society has not accepted zoosexuality yet.
Also, remember this: most zoosexuals are cowardly pessimists who are willing to silently and secretly hide in their zoosexual closets; this attitude will never help to make zoosexuality become acceptable by society. The situation zoosexuals find themselves in is tragic, but what is more tragic is that so many zoosexuals are cowardly pessimists, unwilling to fight for social change.
And lastly, zoosexuals should remember this quote: “Be who you are and see what happens, regardless of whether people accept you.”
On Wikipedia, people are constantly criticized for creating “original research”. This is not the way it should be. People should be praised for creating original research. Why? Think about this: when Albert Einstein came up with the Theory of Relativity, at the time he made it, it was “original research” — meaning, the only person in the universe who had thought of it was Einstein, so he had no sources to back it up — it was simply his idea.
That’s the problem with Wikipedia — their function is to create a website which relies on other sources. People who edit Wikipedia become like mindless zombies, taking information from other sources and adding it to the collective. When a person in that conformist group stands out from the crowd and begins coming up with new ideas (the way Einstein did), that person is shunned by Wikipedia and is usually blocked by smug, self-righteous Wikipedia “administrators”, whose sole purpose is to bully people and block people.
Basically, if there were Wikipedia in the early 1900s and Einstein had gone onto Wikipedia and written an article called “The Theory of Relativity”, his article would’ve been put on “articles for speedy deletion” and his article would’ve been deleted by some arrogant administrator. Additionally, Einstein himself probably would’ve been blocked indefinitely by those same arrogant administrators.
My point is that Wikipedia hates people who come up with points. Wikipedia hates original thinkers, and prefers geeky losers who spend their lives carrying out mindless tasks — all they do is copy information from other people and restructure it in a way that doesn’t plagiarize. This does not make them original thinkers — they’re still copiers.
One of the best things a human being can do is think of original ideas and create inventions. Einstein came up with the Theory of Relativity, and Thomas Edison invented the light bulb. But if Einstein and Edison had thought the way Wikipedians do, they never would have come up with those ideas. People who free themselves from the shackles of Wikipedia are free to think what they want and do what they want. Being original, thinking freely and inventing new things are traits which are loathed by Wikipedia — yet these traits are the traits which lead to the success of people such as Einstein and Edison, and it is these traits which will lead to a creative and imaginative future.
Don’t listen to what Wikipedians say — there is nothing wrong with original research, and there is nothing wrong with original ideas.
The most obvious problem with college is that it is a giant scam. College is outrageously expensive, and most of the money that is given to the colleges goes into the pockets of the college administrators, such as the president. Money that could’ve been used to make the cafeteria food better or to make the dorms better instead goes into greedy people’s pockets.
Most colleges try to get people to attend their institution by bamboozling people into thinking of it as a “wonderful” place. The truth is, it isn’t. From mediocre dorms, to low-quality cafeteria food, to extremely expensive college textbooks which aren’t even used in class, college is not the “wonderful” place that the glossy college brochures would like you to believe. Those brochures are aimed as prospective high school seniors, and are essentially propaganda to trick people into thinking that the college is better than it actually is. They tell people what are supposedly the best things about the college, while leaving out the negative aspects. Also, they use enticing imagery (such as pictures of smiling students and vague phrases like
“you can make your future here”).
But there are subtle problems with college as well. For example, consider the GPA. Although most people think the GPA is good, it really isn’t. The reason the GPA isn’t good is because it encourages students to take easy courses. Although the college propaganda says that students should “challenge” themselves, when students in real life do actually “challenge” themselves, they are usually penalized with low grades and a low GPA. Thus, in order to maintain a high GPA, students are pressured into taking courses with don’t challenge them. To make matters worse, when this issue is brought up with college administrators, they blame it on the student and not they system (they take the easy way out).
Also, there are serious ethical problems with scholarships. A person who is paying $15,000 a year to go to a college could be sitting in that college’s dining hall next to a person who is attending the same college for free. This isn’t fair, yet it is accepted by colleges and isn’t illegal (for some reason). In many ways, scholarships are racist against white people. For example, a college which is desperate to increase their ethnic
minority population may allow ethnic minorities to attend their college for free, while at the same time forcing white people to pay huge amounts of money. But the unethical scholarship practices don’t just involve race — they also favor arbitrary abilities (for example, sports). All students should have to pay the same amount to attend an institution — there should be no scholarships.
The grading system is also unethical. Most colleges grade a class based on the A-F letter system. This system should be abolished and replaced with “pass/fail”. In addition, in currently existing letter systems all “F”s should be counted the way “W”s are counted and should not negatively impact a person’s GPA.
There are several things to remember about college. College is an expensive waste of time. College is a business. College is a place with generally low-quality housing and low-quality dining. College is over-glorified and is much worse than what people claim it is. College is a place where archaic ways (such as sitting in classrooms and listening to professors lecture) have not caught up with the technological advances of the last 30 years. College is a place with too many pre-requisites. College is a place in which there is an “early bird gets the worm” system for housing and class choices, causing there to always be a “race” to get a spot. But most importantly, college is a scam.
Dolphins are one of the few creatures on Earth that have sex for pleasure. It is no surprise then that dolphins have been documented enjoying sex with humans.
Here is a quote regarding delphinic zoosexuality:
“Zoophilia is best described as a love of animals so intimate that the person (and the animal) involved have no objections to expressing their affection for each other in the sexual fashion. This does not include forcefully mating with an animal, without their consent, or with no mutual feelings whatsoever. This is something that I would never do to a dolphin, since I love them dearly, and treat them with the same respect that an honest husband would have for his wife and children.
Dolphins are very intelligent, highly emotional and expressive creatures.They enjoy the company of humans, and if a relationship develops between a human and a dolphin, as has happened with me, they will, on occasion, wish to express their trust and affection for you in the most direct way; through mating, or sex-play. You see, dolphins do not use sex purely for procreative reasons. They use it as a way of strengthening the bonds between pod mates (mothers and calves included), and also for fun. Dolphins and humans share this common trait with very few other animals, so sometimes it makes me wonder when people continue to ask me ‘How DO you mate with a dolphin?’. Easy. Let the dolphin tell you! [...]
You should love a dolphin, not because of the sexual relief they can provide, but because they are a unique animal, one of the few wild animals that seek the company of man by their own initiative. This is special Do not abuse it.”– http://www.zoophile.net/dolphins.php
The above website also says the following:
“There are 2 ways of determining the sex of a dolphin. The most obvious way is to take a peek under the peduncle (the long part of the body connected to the tailflukes). On the dolphin’s belly, directly opposite the dorsal fin, will be the umbilicus, or the navel of the dolphin. Looking further down towards the tail, you start to see the differences. Male dolphins have two separate slits for the penis (the urogenital opening) and the anus. These are separated by a bridge of skin. The male’s urogenital opening is generally located further up the belly, towards the navel.
Females, on the other fin, have one continuous larger slit, the anus located at the end of it. On either side of the genital slit, you will find two smaller slits; these are the mammary slits, where the nipples of the dolphin are kept for feeding the calves. The slit is also located closer to the tail stock of the dolphin. The other way to determine the sex of a dolphin, if you can’t reach their belly, is to look at their mellon ,or head. The males tend to have a fatter, rounder mellon, while the females are more sleek and streamlined[...]
There are various ways a dolphin has of showing that she or he is interested in sex. Males are probably the easiest to detect. They will swim around, sporting an erection (anywhere between 10 to 14 inches longfor a Bottle-nose), and will have no bones about swimming up to you and placing their member within reach of your hand. If you are in the water, they may rub it along any part of your body, or wrap it around your wrist or ankle. (Dolphin males have a prehensile penis. They can wrap it around objects, and carry them as such.) Their belly will also be pinkish in colour, which also denotes sexual excitement. Females can be a little harder. The most obvious way a female dolphin has of displaying her sexual interest is the pink-belly effect. Their genitals become very pink and swollen, making the genital region very prominent.They may be restless, or they may be acting as normal. If you are out of the water, they may swim up to you and roll belly up, exposing themselves to you, coupled with pelvic thrusts. If you are in the water, they may press their genitals up against yours, nibble your fingers, nuzzle your crotch, or do pelvic thrusts against you. Each dolphins way of expressing sexual readiness varies, so the longer you know the dolphin, the better you will detect when they are sexually active[...] [if a dolphin wants to have sex with you], accept, if possible!” — http://www.zoophile.net/dolphins.php
Here is video showing a dolphin showing an apparent sexual interest or “sex-play” as described in the above quote:
Here is another video showing a dolphin with apparent interest in having sex with a human, and engaging in “sex-play”:
Although the above videos could’ve been staged, they still strongly suggest that dolphins are at least somewhat willing to have sex with humans. Since the “sex-play” seen in the videos above occurred at two different times in two different aquariums to two different people, it makes the notion that dolphins are willing to have sex with humans more credible. Also, although the above videos could be interpreted as being humorous, remember that the human sexual attraction to dolphins is not something to laugh about — it is a real sexual desire that many people feel, but few people reveal.
As Delphigirl pointed out, there is the strong possibility that the above videos involved training; she provided another video in which dolphins appear to be sexually attracted to humans in open water:
One of the main problems for those who are sexually attracted to dolphins is that finding a dolphin “partner” is a bit of a logistical nightmare, especially if one lives in an area far from the ocean. Firstly, people are not allowed to own dolphins as pets, because of the Marine Mammal Protection Act. Secondly, it will be difficult for people to have sex with dolphins in aquariums because those are public places, and zoosexuality is taboo. Thirdly, it is not easy to have sex with a dolphin in the wild, not only because dolphins are often on the move, but because (just as with aquariums) the wild is not private, allowing bigots to aim their prejudicial zoosexual discrimination towards the dolphin lover.
The logistical problems associated with the creation of a real life dolphin-human relationship are discussed in the quote below:
“The sad truth is that most delphinic zoos [dolphin-oriented zoosexual people] will never be able to have a relationship for obvious reasons. There is very limited access to captive cetacea and only a small number of animals in such facilities; all of whom can be easily identified, so contact with them is extremely unlikely for most, and very risky for those who work with them. As for wild dolphins, one faces a difficult situation due to the Marine Mammal Protection Act here in the U.S., similar laws in other coastal places in the world, and other issues prohibiting interaction with these animals. Despite these obstacles, though, some people have had relationships with wild dolphins” — http://delphigirlwrites.blogspot.com
Based on Internet evidence, the best place to have sex with a dolphin is at night, in a secluded (remote) bay or cove:
“Aquariums are a bad choice, for many reasons. Too public, the dolphins are not in their natural habitat, night visits are impossible, etc etc…some may have external enclosures, which may be accessible, but that is no guarantee. Best thing sometimes is to find a beach or a cove that the dolphins frequent. It takes time to develop a relationship with a dolphin to the point where they will let you mate with them (although some have been as quick as 3 days to acclimatize). Gaining their trust takes time,and you need to visit frequently. This is impossible for some people, I understand, but it is the best way. Sometimes you just need to be in the right place at the right time. I have been extremely lucky on two occasions with wild dolphins, and my current mate is a dolphin who lives in the harbour of my resident city. Well, I hope this is of use to whoever is interested.”– http://www.zoophile.net/dolphins.php
It is quite possible that in the future, if zoosexuality ever become accepted by society, the first laws to officially allow sex with animals will have to do with dolphins. Chances are that future technology will be able to prove that dolphins enjoy having sex with humans, thus bringing people to the conclusion that there is nothing wrong with having sex with dolphins (and thus resulting in a law protecting the rights of delphinic zoophiles). But this hypothetical reality is far from occurring — right now, zoosexuality, even delphinic zoosexuality, is still irrationally reviled by society, just as black people were irrationally reviled by people in the U.S. South in the early 1800s.
There is nothing wrong with having sex with dolphins, so long as the dolphin consents to sex. As discussed in other posts, animals can consent to sex by using body language; they do not need to speak a human language to communicate what they want and don’t want. In addition, it is very clear when a dolphin does and does not want to have sex. And according to Internet sources, people have personally experienced dolphins becoming aroused at the sight of a human:
“I was quite happily swimming around with the dolphins when she suddenly decided to grab my foot with her genital slit. Dolphins have very muscular vaginal orifices, and can use these muscles to manipulate objects and carry them. I stayed still for a while, to see if she was just playing, but she continued to masturbate against my foot, and in the light of the torch I sometimes carry, I could see that her slit had become very pink and had swelled as well. She was aroused!
So, I started to back-paddle with my hands towards a small beached area, partially submerged in the water. A couple of times she pulled me forward into the deeper water, but eventually I got my self to the shallows. I dislodged my foot (Being careful not to pull too hard), and took her gently by a pectoral fin and rubbed her belly just to aclimatize her, I guess. She immediately rolled belly up and started doing pelvic thrusts against the palm of my hand. It was unmistakeably erotic, and by now I was fully aroused.
I stripped off my shorts, and gently pulled her into the shallows until she was lying on her side, her belly facing towards me, half submerged in the water. I nestled myself belly to belly against her, and pressed my member against her genital slit. She immediately arched her body against mine, and took me inside her body, initiating a quick series of muscular contractions with her vaginal muscles. I wrapped my left arm around her body and just held her close while she manipulated me inside her body, until I climaxed barely 2 minutes later. Surprisingly, her body also shuddered against mine, and we spent the next 5 or so minutes just lying together in the shallows, holding each other, enjoying our company and reveling in the fact that we had shared something special together, something very few people can claim to have done.
I do not brag about this though. It is not something you can brag about, since it not only is demeaning to the act, but it destroys the purpose of the act as well; to express affection, and trust. I only consent to those dolphins who ask. As a result, I have mated only three times. Each time was memorable and special, because each time it was something we both wanted to share with each other. Sex, for me, is just another, albeit powerful, expression of affection and trust. I wouldn’t engage any other animal, though; it is not my attraction. But there is little I wouldn’t do for a dolphin.” — http://www.sexwork.com/family/dolphins1.html
As the above quote shows, people have had sex with dolphins, and from what these people described, both participants (the human and the dolphin) were satisfied by their blissful interactions.
Dolphins are also one of the few animals that humans have married. For example, on my post about human-animal marriage, I discussed a human-dolphin marriage; here is a photo of that marriage:
The marriage took place in Israel, between and a woman and a dolphin who were in love with each other. What is interesting is that the dolphin apparently understood the marriage, at least partially, because dolphins are so smart.
Delphinic zoosexuality is very widespread, but most delphinic zoosexuals are in the “zoosexual closet”. Like other zoosexual variations on the zoosexual orientation wheel, delphinic zoosexuals play an important part in defining the zoosexual community. Also, on my post about what it’s like to be eaten, I briefly discussed the above issues.
If an alien from another planet watched all of our TV shows and observed our pop-culture, that alien would leave the Earth thinking that people did not like having sex with dolphins, and were not sexually attracted to them. However, besides websites such as zoophile.net, there are tools that would make the widespread (closeted) delphinic zoosexuality easier to detect.
For example, take Google Trends. It is a website which determines how much a term is search for by people on the Earth, and then categorizes those searches by country and city. For example, when “sex with animal” is typed in, one will discover that the countries where this term is searched for the most are Bangladesh, Pakistan and Indonesia. However, when “dolphin sex” is typed in, one will discover that the term “dolphin sex” is searched for frequently in New Zealand, the United States, and Australia. Also, the city where “dolphin sex” is searched for the most is Tampa, Florida.
Additionally, there is more evidence that delphinic zoosexuality is widespread. For example, read this quote:
“I have learned an important lesson – people want dolphin sex, and lots of it! The proof is in the dolphin flavored pudding [search terms for dolphin sex][...] Now, what I want to know is: why is dolphin sex so popular? Put your penis where your porpoise is and comment” — http://thejamminjabber.com/2007/08/07/dolphin-fckers-of-the-world-unite/
The above quote could have less to do with people being attracted to dolphins, and more to do with the fact that they (the delphinic zoosexuals) cannot express themselves in public, so their expression comes out on the Internet instead, resulting in a huge number of searches for dolphin sex. If dolphin sexuality (delphinic zoosexuality) were actually accepted by society like it should be, perhaps people wouldn’t be relying on the Internet so much.
Nonetheless, there is plenty of evidence on the Internet that people want to have sex with dolphins:
“I wanna f*ck a female dolphin” — man
“I would like to have a sexual relation with a female dolphin. It looks comfortable and the dolphin’s vagina is very muscled.” — Anonymous
“I want to have sex with dolphins; they are sexy” — a guy
“Dolphins are amazing creatures and I think they would be the best animals to have sex with because they are the only other mammal that I know of
that has sex for pleasure” — Vampirevivic
“For me, I think the passion for dolphins is a mix of their grace, beauty, strength, intelligence, and personalities. And perhaps to some extent the sheer exoticness of their being, they’re unlike any other mammal.” — Cetacean
“I just have an inexplicable attraction to them [dolphins]. Their appearance, behavior and lifestyle are all huge turn-ons. It’s an obsession and a love.” — Delphinidae
“I love dolphins because of their intelligence, personality, because they enjoy humans, [and because] I love every part of the dolphin body too. I think that they are maybe the most beautiful creatures on the planet. The shape of the dolphin body is so great, and for me they are a symbol of freedom.” — dolphlove
“Being able to find a horny [dolphin] in the wild sounds real hot…does that come with any Florida vacations? hehe” — German07
“I would love to make love to a dolphin.” — Sasquasher
“I hear that sex with [dolphins] is incredible, especially if you are a human male.” — shadowtalons
“I wish I could be making sweet passionate love to a female dolphin in a secluded cove away from civilization so we can enjoy each other in peace. I would be in the shallows embracing her, and she would do her best to wrap both of her fins around my body. I would hear her loving moans fill the air and mix with mine, I would cooe her and rub her body as we make love. She will give me heavenly pleasure unlike any being on Earth by rhythmically thrusting against me, and at the same time clenching, rubbing, and rippling her vaginal muscles along the full length of my member. I would feel her beautiful, sleek, smooth body as we both shudder and shriek and as she thrusts faster and clenches harder to an inevitable climax as our souls intertwine. And we will become soulmates for as long as time will let us.” — Dolphin Zoo
Obviously, as the above quotes demonstrate, there are many people out there who are sexually attracted to dolphins. It is not an abnormality.
There have been a few books written about human-dolphin sexual interactions. For example, the book Wet Goddess: Recollections of a dolphin lover is an auto-biographical book by a man named Malcolm Brenner, who had a sexual relationship with a dolphin for 9 years. He discusses the book he wrote on this website: http://wetgoddess.net. Here is a photo of him when he was with his lover:
According to Malcolm Brenner, the dolphin he regularly had sex with was the love of his life (source)
Here is a quote about Brenner’s euphoric experience:
“Brenner described how in the 1970s he fell madly in love with a dolphin he was photographing at a local amusement park. After the usual teasing and flirting that comes with mammalian courtship, the two consummated their love affair. The most common reaction New Times heard from readers: ‘I didn’t know that was even possible.” —
Probably the reason why people didn’t know that having sex with a dolphin is possible is because of a lack of zoosexual awareness; and this lack of zoosexual awareness is created by the stupid taboo that society has irrationally placed on zoosexuality.
Also, here is another quote about Malcolm Brenner:
[Malcolm Brenner said] ‘She [the dolphin] would take my leg very lightly in her jaws and run her teeth up and down my leg. It’s an incredible sensation. I don’t know if other people would find it erotic, but I certainly did.’
[Commenter says the following:] “What are your thoughts on this? I personally think it’s a step in the right direction for the bestiality civil rights movement. Organisms should have the liberty to love and have sex with whatever they want (as long as it’s consensual). Love is a right, not a privilege. Wet Goddess is the Uncle Tom’s Cabin of the 21st century.”– http://totse2.com/showthread.php?448-Man-Writes-About-Sex-with-a-Dolphin
There are a lot of bigots out there who think zoosexuality is a “sin” (which is complete bullsh*t), and think sex with animals is immoral. By default, zoosexuality is not immoral. There is nothing wrong with zoosexuality. Just as heterosexual sex can be abused (i.e. a man raping a woman), zoosexuality can also be abused (i.e. the human forcing the animal to have sex). Think of it this way: heterosexual sex isn’t bad because it can be abused, and similarly zoosexual sex isn’t bad because it can be abused. When zoosexuality is done in an abusive way, then it is immoral, but if both the human and animal consent to sex, then it is not immoral. Most zoosexual people would never do anything abusive to their animal lovers. As discussed in other posts, most zoosexual activity is cruelty-free, and many zoosexual people are also vegetarians and animal rights activists.
Luckily, there are people out there who are willing to defend zoosexuals (delphinic or not), even though they themselves are not zoosexual. For example, read this quote:
Hopefully, as time goes by, more and more people will think like the person in the quote above: This is the way people should be thinking if they do not agree with zoosexuality. Zoosexual rights is an important issue. It may take time, but in the end, delphinic zoosexuals will triumph, and people will look back at society in the early 21st century and wonder why people were so against zoosexuality. One of the most important things that people seek is the truth — and it is true that there is nothing wrong with having sex with a dolphin.
Additionally, remember that dolphins themselves are often sexually attracted to humans, in a phenomenon known as “reverse bestiality”. They have been known to demonstrate their attraction by making their bodies turn a pinkish color, and through certain behaviors. Of course, due to the taboo associated with bestiality and zoophilia, the “reverse bestiality” dolphin fact will probably never be discussed by the mainstream media.
Here are some blogs which are specifically about dolphin-oriented zoosexuality:
People must ensure that zoosexual’s rights are protected — and that means repealing anti-zoosexual laws and decriminalizing interspecies sex between humans and other animals, whether those animals are humans, dolphins, dogs, elephants, etc. It also means making sure that new anti-zoosexual legislation doesn’t pass.
This is exactly what I’m talking about. People seem to have their morality inverted. Most people believe that it is OK to kill and eat and animal, yet most people also believe that it is “immoral” to have sex with an animal. I believe the opposite should be true — it should be OK to have sex with an animal, and people should not be allowed to kill animals and use them as meat.
“There is something very ironic about zoosexuality, especially concerning consent. If a person eats an animal, such as a chicken nugget or a hamburger, then did that animal ‘consent’ for you to eat it? Of course not; yet it is acceptable by society. More that 90% of the world population eats meat, yet it is estimated that only a small amount are zoosexuals. This brings up an odd point; does eating a chicken nugget mean you are having non-consensual oral sex with an animal? Why are people criticized for having sex with animals, but not criticized for eating them? I bet that many of the animal rights activists who condemn zoosexuality eat meat regularly without even thinking about it. I find it strange that people can condemn an issue like zoosexuality while at the same time eat animals that have been slaughtered in a factory; this seems hypocritical to me. It would seem that this apparent hypocrisy is the result of two social norms which have collided with each other: the social norm of eating meat (from a biological perspective, gaining protein) and the social norm of sticking to the human species when it comes to relationships. This mix would seem to indicate that both results of the two outcomes (eating meat and staying within our species) results in more offspring. So ultimately, it may be the subconscious urge to propagate our species which is the driving force behind the apparent hypocrisy of eating meat yet condemning zoosexuality. (When you think about it, though, what would an animal prefer: to be killed and eaten, or to have sex?)” — Vivid Random Existence
People need to realize that there is nothing wrong with having sex with animals, but there is definitely something wrong with killing them and eating them for meat. I bet that the average person who regularly eats hamburgers would stop eating hamburgers if he/she went to a slaughterhouse and witnessed a live cow being killed. Unfortunately, there is an “out of sight, out of mind” mentality, and people ignorantly continue to eat meat without even thinking about where the meat originated from.
Why is there such a strong hypocrisy regarding meat consumption and zoosexuality? Because people are selfish. All they care about is whether or not something benefits them. Eating meat benefits them at the expense of others (but all they care about is themselves, and not the suffering they caused others). People generally look down upon zoosexuality because they don’t see it as benefiting anyone (in terms of procreation) — this is a selfish and arrogant view. Homosexuals don’t procreate either, yet they’re becoming accepted. Unfortunately, a lot of people are likely to say, “I’d be willing to eat a cow, but I wouldn’t want to have sex with one”. All they care about is what is in their selfish interests.
Here is a quote from a previous post I wrote:
“It is also important to remember that good zoosexual people understand that an animal has a right to consent or not consent (by using signals and body language). Zoosexuals also understand that animals are sentient and conscious beings just like humans. However, slaughterhouse people do not care about the animal’s consent and do not care about the animal’s rights; they slaughter animals to exploit them for financial gains (to them, animals are only objects). While zoosexuals genuinely respect the rights of animals and love animals, slaughterers have no respect for animals. Ultimately, having sex with an animal can be ethical (and usually is ethical), whereas slaughtering an animal and creating a premature death for an animal is never ethical. (Unfortunately most people are too ignorant to realize this; they support the slaughters by eating their meat, and condemn the zoosexuals for no rational reason). Most non-zoosexual people are selfish and only care about what benefits themselves; they eat meat in order to take nutrients from animals and make themselves stronger, and they condemn bestiality because it doesn’t benefit them or directly impact them (so this enables them to criticize it as much as they want). Also, society has brainwashed them into hating it.” — Vivid Random Existence
College costs are rising all the time. Eventually, colleges will cost millions of dollars, and nobody will want to go to them. When this happens, colleges will have priced themselves out. The days of their corrupt extortion and scamming will be over. The colleges will no longer be able to create a racket and force people to give all their hard-earned money to greedy college presidents.
When the college system breaks down (perhaps around 2025), people will only use education through the Internet, or some virtual means, because it will be far cheaper than actually attending college, which by 2025 will cost millions of dollars.
Do not go to college. It is a giant scam. They are not really there to educate you — all they want to do is take your money. College is essentially a business, not a learning center. People will do whatever they can to rip you off and steal your money, whether that be through unreasonably expensive college textbooks, or dorm room fees, or forced meal plans, or “late extensions”. Do not go through all that hardship — avoid college: it is an institution of extortion. Until lawmakers create laws that forbid colleges from ripping people off so much, it will be up to individual people in our society to force themselves to not get sucked into the dull world of college.
If you want to become something specialized (i.e. a doctor or lawyer), then go to college. Otherwise, don’t. It will be a waste of time. There are jobs out there that don’t need a college degree. And besides, the bachelor’s degree is extremely overrated, and basically the new “high school diploma” and doesn’t really mean much to people. Either go all the way and become something really specialized (like an engineer), or avoid college altogether.